Revolution 250 Podcast
Revolution 250 Podcast
The Other Midnight Riders with Alan Foulds
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow forever etched Paul Revere's name in the pantheon of Revolutionary heroes with his poem "Paul Revere's Ride." William Dawes and Samuel Prescott have joined Revere as celebrated alarm riders of April 18, 1775. However, even the addition of those two riders does not fully tell the story of the Lexington Alarm. Alan Foulds tells us about others, including Martin Herrick of Reading, who spread the alarm on April 18 and 19 and the role of the communities of Lynn, Lynnfield & Reading in the American Revolution.
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Hello, everyone.
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Welcome to the Revolution 250 podcast.
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I'm Bob Allison.
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I chair the Rev 250 Advisory Group.
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We're a consortium of about 70 groups in Massachusetts working in ways to commemorate the beginnings of American independence.
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And our guest today is Alan Foltz.
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And Alan Foltz is a historian from Reading, Massachusetts.
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Alan, welcome.
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Welcome.
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Thank you very much.
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This is exciting.
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Great.
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And in addition to being for 27 years the moderator of the Reading Town Meeting, you also have written about
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Boston Ballparks and Arenas, Linfield's Two Centuries.
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You've written about the Masons in the Revolution and other things.
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You also have a podcast.
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It's also history tales and tidbits from Allen's archives.
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And now you're producing a series called Lin and in the Revolution.
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Right, right.
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They're going to be two to five minute programs that are going to start running.
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Well, we've got the introduction up now, but we're going to start running them in earnest this coming April of 24.
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And we'll keep going all the way through to April 25, telling what was going on in Linan as the revolution was fomenting.
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Great.
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So how often will they run?
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Roughly.
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How many episodes will there be?
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There'll be 25 altogether.
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So they'll run roughly every two weeks.
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That's terrific.
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And now I think we're going to see one.
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We're going to see the intro.
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Linfield, or Lin-In as it was called, was involved in the American Revolution from day one, April 19, 1775.
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Together with every Middlesex village and farm, as well as those here in Essex and Suffolk and Norfolk, our local militia members grabbed their muskets and headed off to fight the world's most powerful army.
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In fact, by looking at town meeting records and diving into stories passed down to us, it's clear we were part of the movement long before that.
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Linfield was a part of Lynn in those days, set off as the second precinct or parish, but residents here were heavily involved in all the decisions.
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The Lynn Town meeting, led by South Linfield's Daniel Mansfield, made it clear we supported Boston in its protests.
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The women of the town, in response to the Tea Act, stormed a bakery and shop and dumped the owner's tea supply out into the street.
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Lynn End, under the leadership of Nathaniel Bancroft, formed its own militia company and took part in some of the heaviest fighting.
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We had our own midnight rider, Martin Herrick,
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who met Paul Revere and gave the alarm in another direction.
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There was the dramatic return of the body of the fallen Daniel Townsend, an evening vigil that followed.
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On a regular basis leading up to the 250th observance, the Linfield Historical Society will take a look at many of the events and characters that led to that fateful April morning.
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The actions of the Lynn Ann militia and all of Eastern Massachusetts put us on the road to the creation of a new nation.
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Well, thank you.
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That's very dramatic.
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Gives us a good introduction to what's happening in Lynn.
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Reading was in part of Linfield?
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No.
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The reason that I'm involved with both is I grew up in Linfield and I lived in Reading for the past 43 years.
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So I am involved in both the Linfield Historical Society, where my father was president for several years.
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My mother was heavily involved.
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And I've been involved in Reading since I moved here back in 1980.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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That makes sense.
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I mean, we do all move around in
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i i will point out there is a connection martin herrick the midnight rider came to both reading and linfield so it kind of works well yes okay it does so what can you tell us about martin harry
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Well, that's really how I got involved in this.
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I was a history nerd even as a little kid.
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And I was fascinated by this marker that was in the old burying ground in Linfield.
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It's a tall marker.
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obelisk-like thing that lists all of the founders of the Second Parish Church and the members of the militia who went to the battle on April 19th.
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But at the very bottom, there's a note that says, Martin Herrick met Paul Revere and gave the alarm in another direction.
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So as a kid, I always thought, well, I know about Paul Revere and Dawes and Prescott.
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Who's this fourth guy?
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And why doesn't anybody know about him?
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So I dug into him and found that he was a local doctor.
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He actually had lived in North Reading before that.
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but moved to Linfield when he became a doctor, and he was in town for 40, 50 years, married Sally Wright of Middleton and raised two daughters, and is the last person buried in the burial ground.
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But beyond that, I didn't know a whole lot about him, except that there were references to him riding into town up to Gowings Tavern and telling of the British advance.
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But then I got interested, thinking, well, if Linfield and Redding and Stoneham were notified by this guy, there must have been others.
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So I started this 50-plus year digging into the other riders and have found riders all over eastern Massachusetts, which makes sense.
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So many of these towns and villages made it to the battle.
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Did Revere and Herrick know each other before this?
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Not that I know of, but Revere, on his ride, did stop at the militia captain's house in Medford, who's Captain Isaac Hall.
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He lived right next door to a doctor named Simon Tufts.
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Tufts, before you ask, I think was the grandfather of the founder of Tufts University.
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But he was a teaching doctor as well as being a doctor.
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He had several apprentices, I guess you'd call them.
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That wasn't the term they used.
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And I think the three of them went off and became writers in different directions.
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Revere did know a guy named John Brooks, who was originally from Medford.
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He was part of the Brooks family, although he later moved to Reading to become the local doctor.
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and the Minuteman captain.
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At 22 years old, he was elected Minuteman captain.
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He knew Revere, and he knew Herrick because they were schoolmates, effectively.
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So when Herrick got the word from Revere, he rode up to John Brooks in Reading and then on to Linfield from there.
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Okay.
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And so what have you found out?
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Who was Martin Herrick?
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Have you found out more about who he was?
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Like I said, he was mostly, after the battle, he joined the Navy, became a naval surgeon in the Continental Navy, was actually captured twice.
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He was a POW twice, but eventually came home and moved to Linfield where he became the first local doctor.
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He had a great reputation.
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In fact, I found a quote from one of his former patients saying that now that he's gone, I don't expect I'll ever live through another disease.
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But he lived a pretty quiet life after his role in the beginning.
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That's interesting.
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So how bad was he when all of this was happening in 1775?
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How old was he?
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He was 28.
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He was a little older.
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Now, surprisingly, John Brooks had graduated, so to speak, at the age of 20.
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He moved to Reading and became the local doctor at age 20.
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In fact, he didn't even own a house when he came here.
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He rented it.
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a room in the Samuel Damon house.
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Although he did stay long enough to meet and marry the Damon's niece.
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But at age 22, he was elected captain of the Minute Company.
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Part of the reason that Brooks was elected was that he not only was a good doctor, but he had studied under Timothy Pickering, Colonel Pickering in Salem.
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So he was an expert at war tactics.
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So he was the one chosen.
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And this is the Pickering who goes on to become Secretary of State in Washington, D.C.
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The very one, yes.
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And there's the Pickering House in Salem.
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Right, right.
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So you're surrounded by this history, and now you're really doing a great job of showcasing it and getting more people interested in it or knowing about what happened, aside from just Boulder of your met more inherently.
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Right, right.
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So in fact, as part of Rev 250, I'm involved with both the Linfield Historical Society and the Reading Antiquarian Society.
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And we're hoping to, in some way, recreate Martin Herrick's ride.
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It may be a staged ride where he comes into each individual town, but we can trace him through Stoneham to Reading to Linfield.
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Wow.
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About how long of a ride was this?
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Probably 12 to 15 miles, maybe a little bit longer because we don't really know exactly the route he took.
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But it's pretty obvious he went straight out of Medford by the home of Samuel Sprague, who was captain in Stoneham, and then somehow went up through what is now the Middletex Fells.
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And so then the militia from these towns turned out and went down to Anseville Island.
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That's right.
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The Redding Group, now Redding was made up of what is today North Redding, Redding and Wakefield.
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Those troops headed toward Concord.
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They actually met the British Army at Merriam's Corner.
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The Linfield Group, as well as the other pieces of Lin, went the other direction and met the British in monotony.
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In fact, three of the members of the Linfield Company were killed at the Jason Russell House.
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Wow.
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Interesting.
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Now, in your research, have you found that there was a, maybe they had a list of officers, or that Herrick knew who he was looking for, or did he?
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Well, you know, of course, this was treason back then, so they didn't write a whole lot down.
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Yeah, they're not saying, these are the key people.
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Yeah.
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But it looks as though he went to Sprague.
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He may very well have gone through what is now Wakefield, but it's not absolutely clear on that.
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But he did go to Redding.
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In fact, when he got to the Damon House in Redding,
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Brooks was supposedly attending to a patient at the Hartshorn house around the corner.
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Well, Hartshorn was a member of the local committee of safety and also a member of the minute company.
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So it's more likely they were there planning things.
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Brooks had been in Boston the day before and had supposedly talked to Dr. Joseph Warren.
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Yes, right, yeah.
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So in my research, oh, go ahead, I'm sorry.
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No, go on.
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I was going to say, the research has taken me beyond just Herrick and Brooks.
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I think there was a third writer who came out from Medford as well, although this is conjecture.
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I'll say that right off the bat.
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There was another student named John Sprague who was from Malden.
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Now, we don't know that he went up to Malden, but somebody rode up the Medford Road into Malden with the word knocking on Kettle's Tavern before heading off to Saugus.
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Now, after the war, Sprague bought Kettles Tavern.
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So both his father and his brother were members of the militia company.
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So it's a good bet that it was him, but we don't really know for sure.
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Okay.
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Now, speaking of taverns, you're also involved with the Friends of Parker's Tavern.
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Can you tell us a bit about that?
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Yes.
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The Parker Tavern is owned by the Redding Antiquarian Society.
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And it is effectively the town museum.
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It's probably the oldest house in town, although there's some question about pieces of other houses that might be older.
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But it's the oldest house in town that's...
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still pretty much the way it was back then in place.
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That actually has an interesting story a year after April 19th.
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After the siege of Boston ended, after the evacuation took place, three transport ships came into the harbor.
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Hadn't heard about the evacuation yet.
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It was led by a guy named Archibald Campbell.
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Well, they were all captured right away.
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And Campbell himself was taken to the Parker Tavern and held there for a few months before eventually being shipped off to the Concord Jail.
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So Campbell himself liked the tavern.
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I guess he was treated pretty well here.
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It was like a gentleman's agreement.
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He was held in the tavern, which meant he couldn't go more than a mile from the tavern.
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And they used to picnic up on a place that's today called Scotland Hill.
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These are all Scottish soldiers.
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Yes, all Scottish, right.
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So he actually received two votes for Selectman and that didn't please the town fathers too much.
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But he didn't decide to stay though.
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No, no, but then he gets shipped to Concord and he didn't like the Concord jail at all.
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It was more like a jail.
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In fact, he made a plea to George Washington asking to be- Yeah, more like a jail than a tavern, yeah.
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Yeah, right, right.
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Wow.
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But then he eventually was- Wow.
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Where did he go?
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It was a prisoner exchange for Ethan Allen.
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And he eventually got back into the army and became the military general of Georgia.
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And then later on, I believe he was the general, I mean, not the governor, excuse me, military governor of Georgia, and then later governor of Jamaica.
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And then he's buried in Westminster Abbey now.
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Wow.
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Well, from Parker Tavern to Westminster Abbey.
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Now, you also mentioned that Dr. Simon Tufts in Medford lived next door to Captain Isaac Hall.
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Is he related to the Isaac Hall of the USS Constitution, or is this a different Isaac Hall?
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Actually, you know, I think I was mixing that up.
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I was thinking of Hall when I said it.
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It's actually Isaac Hall.
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Hall, okay, that makes more sense.
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I probably said Hall because I thought Hall was from Connecticut.
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Right, right.
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Easy, easy, Eric.
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I was going to say, again, Revere doesn't mention him by name.
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He just mentions he stopped at the militia captain's house, which happened to be Isaac Hall.
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But even years later, when he was giving his deposition to the Massachusetts Historical Society, Revere was still careful about not using people's names.
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Right.
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It's interesting.
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He keeps that expression.
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How do we know about him meeting Martin Herrick?
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Where's that story documented?
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Well, that's partly legend, but it's probably something to it.
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Like I said, it's on the marker that he met Paul Revere.
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And history books written in the 1890s, which are, of course, now about third hand.
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But there, the author, Thomas Wellman, had spoken to the children of people who were there and talked about Martin Herrick breathlessly riding up to the Gowling Tavern and giving the word before heading back to home, which was North Reading at the time.
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So it's a little bit of hearsay, but they did get the word somehow, and it seems to make sense that it was him.
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Yeah, interesting.
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Now, you've also done a bit of work with looking at the history of the Masons in this period.
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Can you tell us a little bit about how the Masons might have been involved?
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Well, again, it's somewhat legend, but there's all kinds of rumors that there was a lot of talk among the Masons that were planning the revolution.
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Paul Revere, of course.
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John Hancock was, although more like an in-name only.
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He really wasn't as involved as Revere was.
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But Revere, through the Masons, had all sorts of connections with just about everybody in town, at least all the movers and shakers.
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And so there's something to that, whether it was an organized thing or not.
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Is there a Masonic group in Redding, Linfield?
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There is.
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I'm not asking you to betray any secrets.
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Yes, there is a Masonic hall in Redding.
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There's a Linfield Lodge, although they meet over in Wakefield.
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But there is a Linfield Lodge as well, yeah.
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And how big were these towns in 1775?
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They were pretty small.
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I mean, especially like Linfield wasn't even a separate town yet.
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It was still it was the second precinct or parish of Lynn.
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And there were 38 people in the militia compared to like Saugus, which was the third parish that had, I think, 65.
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Although it's funny that Linfield lost three of its members.
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It really hit the hardest of the Lynn groups.
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But Reading was a little bit bigger.
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Although back then it had three precincts.
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It had North Reading and Wakefield as well as what is today Reading.
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So that was a little bit bigger.
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Linfield was really a tiny spot.
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Were they mainly farming towns?
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Yes, yeah.
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Well, Linfield, anyway, was mainly a farming town.
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It was really just sort of an extension of Lynn.
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Although it was so far from downtown Lynn, they kind of felt that they were separate.
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And by 1782, they were officially separated.
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But they built their own meeting house back in 1784.
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Yes, so it starts with becoming it.
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Wow.
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Interesting.
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Right.
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1712, it became a separate parish.
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They built their own meeting house in 1714 and then had the first minister in 1720.
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So it was a gradual process.
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But in 1775, it had its own militia company.
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And they really they were just nominally part of Lynn.
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But they did officially separate seven years after the revolution started.
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I believe the Mass Historical Society is going to have an exhibit on St.
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Andrew's Lodge and the Boston Tea Party.
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I think it's opening on the 5th of October, so that's something we want to know more about the role of the Masons in this.
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That would be a good place to start.
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Yeah, St.
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Andrew's Lodge is one of the two oldest in the country, I believe.
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Definitely the oldest here, but I think they're the two oldest in the country.
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yeah yeah so it's interesting so you have now do you have any letters or other things where are the town meeting are they talking about these issues in 1770 well yeah that that part of the story is near and dear to my heart being a moderator for a long time um yes there were there were a lot of mentions of
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the issues in the town meeting.
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It was Lynn's town meeting at the time, in Linfield anyway.
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But the regular moderator was a guy from Linfield.
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And there were constant mentions of the impending problems.
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In fact, on December 16, 1773, the day of the Tea Party, there was a resolution passed in Lynn supporting whatever Boston decides to do with the boycott of imported tea.
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and two or three days later they found out what had happened the women of the town stormed into a local bakery and shop tea shop and demanded that he get rid of all of his imported tea and when he wouldn't these women grabbed the tea and dumped it out in the street out front wow they had their own little tea party that was like limbs
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That's interesting.
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Now, are you going to be commemorating that?
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Oh, yes.
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Yeah, we'll have something.
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It won't be a big part of it, but we will definitely do something for that.
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Maybe we'll dump tea out in the summer.
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Yeah, right.
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That would be good.
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Yeah.
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That's fascinating.
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And so the town...
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So Linfield was still part of Lin.
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It was a Lin town meeting.
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Right.
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They were going to the Lin town meeting, yes.
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Yeah.
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Interesting.
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They had their own meeting house, and they had their own parish meetings, but the town meeting was in what was called the old tunnel meeting house on Lin Common.
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Does it still stand?
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No.
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The Linfield one does, but not the Lin one.
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The Lin one's long gone.
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Yeah.
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Fascinating.
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So this action, you know, a lot of times history presents this as being very Boston-centric, but what we're seeing is there's actually all of this action going on in Linfield, Lynn, Redding, Malden, Medford, these other towns north of Boston.
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Yes.
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In fact, there were other writers from that.
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When I was doing my research, I kind of lumped them into what I call hubs.
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They didn't call them that, but they were writers went out from places like Lincoln, Lincoln, which was very close to the action on that day.
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It had its own set of riders.
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Let's see if I can come up with some of the names.
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Josiah Nelson was actually assigned in Lincoln to head to Bedford with any news.
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And he must have known something was coming.
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He was awake in the middle of the night, waiting.
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And then he heard...
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the horses coming up the street.
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It was, of course, pitch dark.
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There's no street lights or anything back then.
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He looked out the window and he yelled to the riders saying, have you seen any of the British troops coming?
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Well, it was two members of the British troop on horseback.
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One of them came up to him and facetiously said, I'll let you know if I see any.
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He took his sword out and slashed poor Nelson across the forehead.
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But undaunted, Sire Nelson dressed his wound, headed off to Lincoln with the word.
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And then Samuel Prescott, who of course more or less finished Revere's ride, he stopped at Ephraim Hartwell's tavern.
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And then Hartwell sent word over to his son, who was a sergeant in the militia.
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And then Hartwell's wife, Mary Hartwell, hopped on her horse and rode over to Captain Smith.
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So a lot of things went out from Lincoln.
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And then, of course, Concord was another big hub.
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Benjamin Tidd and Nathan Monroe were jointly assigned also to go to Lincoln.
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So Lincoln was very well warned.
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But they not only went to Lincoln, they stopped at every house along the way.
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They actually gave a report later as to where they went.
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And then a guy named Reuben Brown was sent down to Hopkinton.
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William Parkman went to Sudbury, Captain Thomas Plimpton.
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And then Samuel Prescott's brother, Abel Prescott, was sent to Hopkinton.
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And somebody went from Concord to Acton and Stowe, but the name isn't recorded.
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But Hamilton Heard, in his history of Middlesex County, says that it was Samuel Prescott himself who continued on.
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And in fact, there is a marker, Stowe, marking the end of Prescott's ride.
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So the Provincial Congress might have set up some kind of a network of these guys, or
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So it's not just random.
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You find someone who happens to be awake with a voice.
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Exactly.
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It's not just random.
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It's loosely organized, but it was organized.
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Not only the Provincial Congress, but even Middlesex County had set up an alarm system even before that.
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In Cambridge, there was an early resolve that says...
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Let's see if I get the words right here exactly.
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They'd be appointed a select number of persons in each town of Middlesex who upon hearing any information concerning danger in any other town must spread the word and go help.
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The towns of the dispatch post each town to the next until notices be conveyed over the whole county if need be.
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And then in October of October 74, the provincial Congress did weigh in.
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It was after the so-called powder alarm where the troops had gone out to Powder Hill Square.
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The colonists were more or less caught unawares and they thought this isn't going to happen again.
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So they set up this alarm system.
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It wasn't exactly a system, but each town was told you have to appoint somebody to go here or there.
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Unfortunately, a lot of these names are lost.
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Some of them have been recorded or at least carried down through stories and legends, but some of them we just know there was a writer.
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Wow.
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And it's interesting to see this, not knowing what is going to happen, but planning to have this kind of way of connecting different communities.
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Right, right.
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It's, you know, everybody knows about Paul Revere.
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Every school child knows of Paul Revere and in history buffs like you would be and probably everybody watching knows about Dawes and Prescott.
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But these other careers are more or less forgotten.
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They are.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, Revere, of course, he wrote, Jeremy Belknap asked him to write down what happened.
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And so he does do that.
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But also he has a deposition shortly after.
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And also we have in the Massachusetts archives the receipts he presented.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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He's right.
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safety or something.
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Henry Weir, of course, had the greatest publicity agent in Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.
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Yeah, like 80 years later.
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But there are these other stories of these other boats that are definitely worth thinking about.
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This whole network, it's a lot of people involved in it.
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As I said, what's interesting is they're forgotten on the big picture, but locally a lot of them are not forgotten.
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There's an interesting story in the town of Westford
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The Westford History, written back in the late 1800s sometime, it's almost poetic language, the way he talks about this mysterious mounted messenger.
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His silhouette was seen on Beaver Brook Bridge riding to Colonel Prescott.
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His words, his name is lost to history, but his words live on.
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But then over in Littleton, four miles away, they talk about Edward Weatherby riding over the Beaver Brook Bridge over to Westford.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, his name isn't lost to history in the next town.
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Right, right.
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And also, you know, there have been a system of communication set up with post riders, traveling traders, messengers, and so on.
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In fact, some of them advertised in the newspaper.
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So you're wondering how these guys were recruited to be, or women in some cases, to be the ones who will carry these particular message on April 18th and 19th.
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I know.
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First of all, you had to have a horse, I guess.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I do notice there's a pattern.
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An awful lot of them are doctors.
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Now, I don't know why that is.
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It could be that doctors would have traveled a lot to see their patients.
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Right.
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They had an excuse to be out in the middle of the night.
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Right.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And, of course, Joseph Warren may have built up a network himself.
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That's right.
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That's interesting.
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Think about this as the doctors involved in this, more than just being doctors, but as being messengers.
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Right.
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We know of Samuel Prescott, Herrick, and Brooks, and of course, Warren himself, and I think there were a couple more.
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And Simon Tufts.
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Simon Tufts, right, right.
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Yeah.
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And Tufts also had a connection, I know, with the Adams family down in Quincy.
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He did, yes.
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I don't know what that is, but I have heard that too, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I know there's a frequent correspondence of John and Abigail, but it's interesting to think about the way that
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Because I think maybe we give too much credit to the lawyers or the merchants.
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And I think about the role of the doctors in this is an interesting way of looking at it.
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Yeah.
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So now you've also been doing this great history podcast, these short takes on different things that come out of your research.
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It's also history, tales and tidbits from Allen's archive.
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So how did you decide to do that?
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Well, like I said, I've always been kind of a history nut right from my earliest memories and especially local history.
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I like to be able to go see the places things actually happened and kind of imagine what it was like 100 years ago, 200 years ago.
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so i've just sort of collected a lot of these smaller stories i wouldn't say smaller but stories you don't see in the history books you don't get taught in history class and i thought i could put together 10 to 15 minute stories on these maybe there isn't enough for a book or article even but something that people would be interested in some of the examples um recently i did one on the boston post cane which was of course a king given to the oldest resident in towns
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I did a story on the Pickwick Club disaster, a building that collapsed in 1925 and killed about half of the people who were in there at the time.
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It was actually the jitterbug.
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People were doing the jitterbug.
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Yeah, it was brought down by a song.
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Yes, brought down by a song.
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Right, right.
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And so stories like that, they're not necessarily revolution stories.
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They're just things that have happened in New England that, like I said, I think people are interested in.
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They are.
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Well, they're fascinating stories because there's histories.
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And it's not just the revolution, all kinds of other things have happened in these various communities.
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Now, your first one dealt with the famous 19th of April with Adams and Hancock, but also there's a cow involved.
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Do you want to tell us about that?
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Yes.
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Adams and Hancock were, of course, out in the Hancock-Clark House when word came to them, and they were convinced they needed to get out of there because they would be prime targets of the troops.
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So it was actually Paul Revere that helped them get their chest out of the building, which contained a lot of the provincial Congress records.
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So they went out into the woods at first while a battle was going on, but Hancock didn't want to be walking through the woods.
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He waited until his chest...
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His wagon showed up.
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They eventually, they got to a house in Woburn, which was now part of Burlington.
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In fact, the house probably would be out in the middle of the Burlington Mall parking lot right now if it still existed.
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And they had breakfast there before they moved on to Bill Ricker.
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And there was a woman, let's see if I get the story right here.
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There was a woman.
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I can't remember the exact story now.
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Sorry to put you on the spot.
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Now I've forgotten that.
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It was sort of an interesting little story.
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I want to give a link to the podcast so people can find out what happened.
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The cow actually got kind of famous.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There are few enough famous cows that I think we want to find one.
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We've been talking with Alan Boulds, who is an historian from Reading, also an historian of Linfield, and doing all kinds of work on these other vibes.
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Anything else we should talk about, Alan?
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I think we could go on all day telling stories about what was happening in these towns.
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Oh, I know.
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Each town, of course, has its own little story.
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And it was one, just a quick one.
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I know in Dedham, when a rider rode through, we don't know who the rider is, but he went through what is now Dedham and Needham and Norwood, which I think were all part of Dedham at the time.
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I don't know where the story comes from, but at the centennial in 1875, there was a speech given and
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He said that the local minister wanted them to stop and pray before they left.
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And he said, no, we have more urgent business at hand.
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And he left with his men.
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But even before that, he admonished someone, some croaker who said the alarm was false.
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So they shut him open.
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Yeah.
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I know in David Hackett Fisher's book, he has some areas that are blanked out of the
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was a false alarm.
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It could be, yeah.
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I actually ran into a similar problem.
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It seems like a lot of places were alarmed once, twice, three times even, and other places just seemed to get missed.
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It could be that history is just lost, or maybe it just wasn't that good a system.
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I mean, it was sort of an impromptu thing that happened, and maybe they just did get missed, or maybe it got to them too late.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, Jonathan reminds us that nothing happened in Wolfham.
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Nobody
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Do you know anything more about why Waltham or that lost to history?
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I don't know.
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I have never found anything about Waltham.
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Probably just like John.
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No one wrote down, boy, we thought it was a false alarm.
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Yeah, it could be.
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I'm sure.
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I'm sure there were people who thought it was a false alarm.
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There probably were alarms before that.
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Like back at the Leslie's retreat.
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It wasn't false, obviously, but I know the Redding group had gotten alarmed.
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I don't know who did it.
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Maybe it was Martin Erich.
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But they headed off to the battle, what they thought was going to be a battle.
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But somewhere in what is now Peabody, they met troops coming back saying, it's all over.
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Nothing happened.
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The British retreated.
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And then.
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Reading, in turn, met the Linfield crowd that was heading out and told them, turn around, it's over.
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There were some of these false starts that made people think, I'm busy with my story.
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We just went through a big hurricane warning and it missed us.
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It makes you complacent the next time.
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It's fascinating to think about this, not in terms of the stories we know, but about
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How will this interfere in the stories we don't know that you're helping to share?
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Right.
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It's those side stories that have always fascinated me.
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You know, when you think about it, obviously, there had to be several writers.
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I mean, everybody knows about Power Review.
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But obviously, if you just think about it for a minute, there was more than one person or three people writing around.
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So there had to have been some sort of a network.
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And it's never really been fully explored.
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Yeah.
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And they're not there.
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They have to go in different directions because they're warning different towns.
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But then sometimes, as you said, there is an overlap.
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Some towns get warned a couple of times.
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Right.
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Even in Reading, there's talk about a rider coming through later on after the troops had already gone.
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And a guy named Caleb Prentice, who was the minister of the South Parish, he went with some of the older men who were exempt from the service and decided, well,
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Let's go.
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But that was a second rider came in.
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We don't know where that came from.
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It may have just been from the next door town.
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Wow.
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Interesting.
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Well, I want to thank you, Alan, for spending some time sharing this with us.
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And we'll probably have to have you back to tell us more stories about what's happening in these towns.
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Anything else we should add before we let you go?
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No, like I said, the last thing is just sort of an epilogue.
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It is amazing that most of these poor guys have just been, you know, they went back to their regular lives and have just sort of disappeared into the woodwork.
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It's an interesting thing.
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I mean, Martin Herrick, locally, most people in town don't know him.
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Of the few historians that do, he's kind of a local hero.
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But for the most part, he's just forgotten.
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And that's the way it is all over eastern Massachusetts.
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Yeah.
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But then again, he lives the rest of his life as the town doctor, which is not a small thing.
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That's right, right.
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And it is, as Emerson said, they died to leave their children free.
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So, you know, you don't need to constantly be doing things like that.
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So, yeah.
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Well, thank you so much, Alan, for joining us to share this.
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And I want to thank Jonathan Lane, our producer, who's been feeding me questions and has been arranging these.
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And thank you for the work you're doing, Alan, in keeping this history alive.
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Madrid, and in Dracut, which is Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Bangkok, Thailand, Belmont, Bountiful, Utah, Bardello in Italy, and Lincoln, Illinois in one of these places.
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And if you have a question or you want to connect with us, send Jonathan Lane an email, jlane at revolution350.org.
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He'll send you one of our Revolution 350 refrigerator magnets or one of our other
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trustees and I look forward to having you all back with us again and maybe I'll unfold again at some point and now we will all be typed out on