Revolution 250 Podcast

Wheatley at 250!

February 13, 2024 Danielle Legros Georges, Artress Bethany White, Florence Ladd, Yailee Saweda Kamara Season 5 Episode 7
Revolution 250 Podcast
Wheatley at 250!
Show Notes Transcript

Phillis Wheatley's poetry continues to inspire and to challenge us.  Poets Artress Bethany White and Danielle Legros Georges brought together twenty contemporary Black women poets to reinterpret, or reimagine, Phillis Wheatley Peters' poems.  Today, in addition to Artress and Danielle,  we are joined by two of the poets, Florence Ladd and Yalie Saweda Kamara.  Their collection Wheatley at 250:  :  Black Women Poets Re-Imagine the Verse of Phillis Wheatley Peters,  a poetic conversation among past, present, and future,  features both the poems of Phillis Wheatley and their  contemporary re-imagining.

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WEBVTT
 
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 the Rep 250 Advisory Group.
 
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 We are a consortium of about
 
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 70 groups in Massachusetts
 
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 planning ways to
 
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 commemorate the American Revolution.
 
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 Actually,
 
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 one of the big events of 1773 was
 
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 the publication of Phyllis
 
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 Wheatley's book .
 
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 Her book came over on one of
 
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 the spring AT to Boston.
 
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 And Danielle Lagros George,
 
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 who is a former Poet
 
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 Laureate of the City of Boston,
 
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 now a Professor Emerita of
 
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 Creative Writing at Lesley University.
 
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 And who is an Associate
 
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 Professor of English at
 
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 Stroudsburg University,
 
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 author of the poetry collection,
 
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 My Afmerica,
 
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 have collaborated on a volume
 
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 commemorating this, Wheatley at 250,
 
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 Black Women Poets Reimagine
 
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 the Verse of Phyllis Wheatley Peters.
 
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 And they and 18 other Black
 
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 women poets worked on
 
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 reimagining or
 
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 reinterpreting the poetry
 
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 of Phyllis Wheatley.
 
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 And so we actually were
 
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 fortunate to have actress
 
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 Bethany White with us,
 
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 along with Danielle
 
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 LaGrosse George and two of
 
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 the contributing poets,
 
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 Yele Soweta Kamara,
 
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 who is a Sierra Leonean American writer,
 
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 her book
 
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 this year.
 
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 She was the winner of the
 
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 2023 Elizabeth Alexander
 
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 Award for Poetry and the
 
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 2020 Adam York Prize Accomplished Poet.
 
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 So thank you for joining us, Yelly.
 
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 And also with us
 
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 a poet's collaborative collective.
 
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 And in addition to writing poetry,
 
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 she's the author of two novels,
 
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 Sarah's Psalm and The
 
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 Spirit of Josephine.
 
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 Yalie is coming to us from
 
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 the environs of Cincinnati.
 
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 She teaches at Xavier University.
 
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 Florence is coming to us
 
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 from Aix-en-Provence in France,
 
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 which she reports is warmer
 
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 than where we are now.
 
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 So thank you all for joining us.
 
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 I will turn this over to
 
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 Artris and Danielle,
 
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 who can tell us about
 
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 So thanks for joining us.
 
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 Thank you, Bob, for having us.
 
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 We're really happy to be
 
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 here to celebrate this anthology,
 
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 which began back in 2022 in
 
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 a conversation you and I
 
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 had about the commemorative year,
 
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 the 250th anniversary of
 
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 the publication of Phyllis
 
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 Wheatley's book in 1773.
 
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 And so you'd invited us to
 
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 prepare a panel for the
 
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 Colonial Society of Massachusetts.
 
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 And I thought, yes, of course,
 
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 we'll do that.
 
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 And then a panel became a series of poems,
 
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 which became a chapbook,
 
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 which became an anthology.
 
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 So you are implicated in this project.
 
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 So thank you so much.
 
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 And I'm going to begin with... Thank you.
 
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 Yes,
 
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 with some contextual notes about
 
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 Phyllis Wheatley.
 
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 And then our guests will
 
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 talk a little bit about the
 
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 process of making this book.
 
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 So as many of you know,
 
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 Phil Sweetly was the author
 
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 or is the author of the
 
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 1773 book Poems on Various Subjects,
 
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 Religious and Moral.
 
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 She's been called many
 
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 things and is many things,
 
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 including the West African
 
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 girl enslaved by Boston
 
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 Sweetly family in 1761,
 
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 the acclaimed 18th century
 
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 transcontinental poet.
 
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 In a magnificent 2006 essay entitled
 
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 The Difficult Miracle of
 
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 Black Poetry in America,
 
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 the poet June Jordan names
 
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 Wheatley the first
 
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 decidedly American poet on
 
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 this continent.
 
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 Can you hear me?
 
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 Yes.
 
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 On this continent,
 
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 by virtue of the keen
 
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 attention Wheatley pays to
 
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 the turbulent events of her
 
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 time and the
 
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 revolutionaries who have forged America.
 
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 The historian Henry Louis Gates Jr.
 
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 situates Wheatley squarely
 
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 in the colonial and
 
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 post-colonial debates that
 
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 sought to confirm or
 
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 dismiss black intelligence.
 
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 As a consequence of her
 
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 distinction as a poet,
 
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 Wheatley was thrust into a
 
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 cosmopolitan sphere and
 
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 found herself in
 
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 conversation with such
 
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 figures as George
 
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 Washington and Benjamin Franklin,
 
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 So you can imagine here is a teenager,
 
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 a black teenager in conversation,
 
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 in correspondence with
 
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 these founding fathers.
 
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 While she was also in
 
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 conversation posthumously
 
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 with Thomas Jefferson,
 
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 whose 1785 notes on the
 
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 state of Virginia prefers
 
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 scathing and undeserved criticism.
 
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 For Jefferson to have recognized
 
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 Wheatley's intelligence and
 
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 talent would have meant to
 
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 recognize the intelligence
 
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 and talent of those he had enslaved.
 
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 Endorsers of Wheatley's book
 
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 identified themselves as
 
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 among the most respectable
 
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 characters of Boston.
 
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 These are the people who, in essence,
 
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 blurbed her book, to use a current term.
 
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 And they included the
 
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 governor and the lieutenant
 
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 governor of Massachusetts.
 
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 Of her poems, they remarked,
 
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 she's been examined by some
 
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 of the best judges and is
 
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 thought qualified to write them.
 
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 A little less restrained,
 
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 David Wall Streicher,
 
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 a Wheatley biographer, notes,
 
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 she became fluent and
 
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 culturally literate and
 
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 able to write poems in
 
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 English so quickly that we
 
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 shouldn't hesitate to call her a genius.
 
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 There's been some really
 
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 wonderful recent scholarship
 
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 on Wheatley,
 
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 including Honoré Fanon
 
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 Jeffers' well-researched
 
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 2020 collection of poems,
 
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 The Age of Phyllis.
 
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 And Jeffers advances the
 
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 argument for referring to
 
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 Wheatley by her married name,
 
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 Wheatley Peters,
 
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 thereby liberating Wheatley
 
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 Peters from perpetual
 
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 historical adolescence.
 
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 So now we can separate the
 
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 celebrated but enslaved
 
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 teenage poet from the free and married
 
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 author.
 
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 Tara Bynum,
 
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 a scholar of literary histories,
 
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 deepens our understanding
 
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 of Wheatley's inner life by
 
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 identifying her letters, not her poems,
 
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 as a means by which
 
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 Wheatley delights in the
 
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 pleasures of her living in
 
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 spite of and because of the
 
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 world at large.
 
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 Phyllis Wheatley Peters
 
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 called herself an Ethiopian
 
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 and an African and poet, of course.
 
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 She dubbed herself friend to, among others,
 
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 Obor Tanner,
 
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 a fellow enslaved woman with
 
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 whom she shared a lengthy
 
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 epistolary friendship.
 
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 We might see Obor Tanner as her bestie.
 
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 She was also friends with Scipio Moorhead,
 
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 a young African-American
 
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 painter who made the image
 
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 of her that we're very familiar with,
 
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 that frontispiece of her book,
 
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 friends with Samson Ockel,
 
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 a Mohegan Presbyterian evangelist,
 
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 and with the English
 
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 Countess of Huntingdon, Selina Hastings,
 
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 who was instrumental in
 
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 funding the publication of
 
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 the book in 1774.
 
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 So Wheatley saw her first
 
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 published in London,
 
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 published in Boston on two
 
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 sides of the Atlantic.
 
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 She named herself wife of John Peters.
 
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 Historian Cornelia Dayton
 
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 offers a narrative that
 
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 runs counter to the popular
 
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 and unfavorable ones we
 
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 have about what transpired
 
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 between the Peters family.
 
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 Peter's,
 
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 and among John Peter's chief efforts,
 
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 she notes,
 
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 was to insulate his wife from
 
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 physically taxing housewife
 
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 free and to create space
 
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 and time for her to inhabit
 
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 a writer's life and to be a mother.
 
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 An acclaimed writer and
 
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 political actor of her lifetime,
 
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 Whitley would not live to
 
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 see herself as inspiration
 
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 for an immense number of scholarly,
 
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 literary, and creative texts.
 
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 She wouldn't see the plaque
 
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 in Boston,
 
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 recognizing the site where she
 
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 was purchased,
 
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 nor the likeness of herself
 
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 in a bronze statue on the
 
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 city's Commonwealth Mall,
 
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 which is shaded so beautifully by trees,
 
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 elm trees and linden trees.
 
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 She wouldn't see the
 
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 buildings that bear her name,
 
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 the lecture halls.
 
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 After her unexpected death in 1784,
 
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 while she was still in her early
 
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 And the second manuscript
 
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 known to have been
 
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 circulating at the time of
 
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 her death has never been recovered.
 
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 And we don't know the exact
 
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 site of her grave at the
 
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 Cops Hill Burying Ground in
 
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 Boston's North End.
 
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 She,
 
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 we know that she's named after the
 
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 ship that bore her to the
 
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 Americas and into the maw
 
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 of greed and the
 
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 dehumanization that was a
 
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 transatlantic slave trade.
 
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 We will never know,
 
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 or at least we don't think
 
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 we will know her West African name,
 
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 her true name,
 
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 the name given to her by her parents,
 
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 but we call her sister and
 
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 we call her ancestor.
 
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 And we call her the mother
 
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 of African-American
 
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 literature and the luminary
 
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 of United States.
 
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 Thank you so much, Danielle,
 
 0:09:53.797 --> 0:09:57.178
 for the introduction to the collection.
 
 0:09:57.879 --> 0:09:58.999
 And I'm just going to say a
 
 0:09:59.158 --> 0:10:01.320
 few words about the process
 
 0:10:01.500 --> 0:10:03.902
 of putting this anthology together.
 
 0:10:05.522 --> 0:10:07.462
 We had a lot of faith that
 
 0:10:08.403 --> 0:10:09.884
 the poets we were inviting
 
 0:10:10.004 --> 0:10:11.024
 into this project
 
 0:10:11.465 --> 0:10:14.186
 had a story to tell about
 
 0:10:14.626 --> 0:10:15.807
 Phyllis Wheatley as
 
 0:10:16.006 --> 0:10:17.947
 ancestor and inspiration.
 
 0:10:18.729 --> 0:10:20.970
 And we were not wrong in
 
 0:10:21.549 --> 0:10:22.890
 hoping that was the case.
 
 0:10:23.510 --> 0:10:25.991
 Truly, the response was tremendous.
 
 0:10:26.413 --> 0:10:28.594
 We celebrated the first yes
 
 0:10:28.913 --> 0:10:30.495
 that we received from our
 
 0:10:30.534 --> 0:10:31.914
 letter of invitation.
 
 0:10:32.916 --> 0:10:36.298
 And after that first yes came through,
 
 0:10:36.398 --> 0:10:38.438
 many others came down through the pike.
 
 0:10:39.259 --> 0:10:41.341
 And people were completely
 
 0:10:41.441 --> 0:10:43.381
 enthusiastic about
 
 0:10:43.542 --> 0:10:44.883
 celebrating Phillis
 
 0:10:44.942 --> 0:10:46.563
 Wheatley's poetry and
 
 0:10:46.644 --> 0:10:48.206
 talking about how she had
 
 0:10:48.285 --> 0:10:51.128
 served as a poetic
 
 0:10:51.207 --> 0:10:53.568
 inspiration in their own work.
 
 0:10:54.389 --> 0:10:56.130
 One of the essential
 
 0:10:56.211 --> 0:10:57.871
 features of this collection
 
 0:10:58.133 --> 0:10:58.993
 is that it is
 
 0:10:59.113 --> 0:11:00.614
 representative of Black
 
 0:11:00.714 --> 0:11:02.916
 poets throughout the diaspora.
 
 0:11:04.966 --> 0:11:08.208
 As Bob mentioned in introducing this panel,
 
 0:11:09.349 --> 0:11:13.792
 Yaeli is from Sierra Leone, and we have,
 
 0:11:15.091 --> 0:11:16.253
 including my co-editor,
 
 0:11:16.273 --> 0:11:17.754
 Haitian American poet,
 
 0:11:17.774 --> 0:11:18.734
 Danielle Legro-George,
 
 0:11:19.254 --> 0:11:21.316
 who are a part of this collection,
 
 0:11:21.676 --> 0:11:23.297
 both in country and out.
 
 0:11:23.777 --> 0:11:26.658
 And it is a beautiful thing
 
 0:11:26.678 --> 0:11:27.938
 that we were able to
 
 0:11:27.999 --> 0:11:31.500
 accomplish that because the true nature,
 
 0:11:31.681 --> 0:11:33.081
 it's truly representative.
 
 0:11:33.802 --> 0:11:35.783
 of Phillis Wheatley's legacy.
 
 0:11:36.543 --> 0:11:38.605
 So we really had a lot of
 
 0:11:38.686 --> 0:11:41.947
 fun putting the anthology together.
 
 0:11:42.488 --> 0:11:44.009
 Once we had all of the yeses,
 
 0:11:44.149 --> 0:11:46.331
 we began assigning poems to people.
 
 0:11:47.152 --> 0:11:50.173
 We talked about their craft.
 
 0:11:50.634 --> 0:11:52.254
 We talked about what we had
 
 0:11:52.335 --> 0:11:53.495
 seen in other of their
 
 0:11:53.535 --> 0:11:55.596
 works that might lend to a
 
 0:11:55.677 --> 0:11:57.138
 delightful interpretation
 
 0:11:57.238 --> 0:11:58.799
 of a particular poem and
 
 0:11:58.879 --> 0:12:00.520
 assign them accordingly.
 
 0:12:01.341 --> 0:12:04.462
 And again, we were not disappointed.
 
 0:12:04.802 --> 0:12:06.464
 There are so many various
 
 0:12:06.563 --> 0:12:09.046
 points of entree that the
 
 0:12:09.086 --> 0:12:11.687
 poets had as they wrote
 
 0:12:11.866 --> 0:12:13.107
 their craft statements
 
 0:12:13.648 --> 0:12:15.948
 about their particular process.
 
 0:12:16.490 --> 0:12:18.250
 And I'm just going to share
 
 0:12:18.370 --> 0:12:19.691
 one really quickly.
 
 0:12:20.751 --> 0:12:23.333
 And this is a poet, Sharon Strange,
 
 0:12:23.793 --> 0:12:24.833
 who wrote
 
 0:12:26.921 --> 0:12:28.703
 on Phyllis Wheatley's poem
 
 0:12:28.764 --> 0:12:30.024
 to the University at
 
 0:12:30.086 --> 0:12:31.827
 Cambridge in New England,
 
 0:12:31.908 --> 0:12:32.828
 a re-inscription.
 
 0:12:33.330 --> 0:12:34.971
 And she dedicates it to
 
 0:12:35.432 --> 0:12:38.817
 Phyllis Wheatley Peters and Claudine Gay.
 
 0:12:39.738 --> 0:12:40.720
 She starts off,
 
 0:12:41.980 --> 0:12:43.341
 One, prologue.
 
 0:12:43.782 --> 0:12:46.004
 Call it history, future,
 
 0:12:46.364 --> 0:12:49.245
 the web of energies connecting continents,
 
 0:12:49.625 --> 0:12:50.525
 diasporas.
 
 0:12:51.047 --> 0:12:52.547
 Call it synchronicity,
 
 0:12:53.227 --> 0:12:55.188
 fate spinning two lives,
 
 0:12:55.589 --> 0:12:57.529
 spawning twin duties,
 
 0:12:59.030 --> 0:13:01.232
 twinned by aboriginal home place,
 
 0:13:01.592 --> 0:13:02.893
 manifest genius,
 
 0:13:03.374 --> 0:13:05.034
 such phenomena who
 
 0:13:05.075 --> 0:13:06.775
 compelled your colonized
 
 0:13:07.035 --> 0:13:10.197
 patriarchal halls to hear their voices.
 
 0:13:11.235 --> 0:13:14.897
 So this is a trans-historical project.
 
 0:13:15.496 --> 0:13:18.379
 And I read the first stanza
 
 0:13:18.479 --> 0:13:20.019
 of her reinscription
 
 0:13:20.100 --> 0:13:23.261
 because it speaks to that
 
 0:13:23.522 --> 0:13:26.062
 trans-historical phenomenon, right?
 
 0:13:26.903 --> 0:13:28.264
 Both of the people she
 
 0:13:28.323 --> 0:13:32.067
 dedicates the poem to are a
 
 0:13:32.147 --> 0:13:34.427
 part of this august institution.
 
 0:13:35.008 --> 0:13:35.948
 And as a poet,
 
 0:13:36.129 --> 0:13:38.509
 Strange herself attended Harvard.
 
 0:13:40.230 --> 0:13:41.772
 Pulling all of these threads
 
 0:13:41.971 --> 0:13:44.474
 together is so much about
 
 0:13:45.053 --> 0:13:47.735
 what this project is really
 
 0:13:47.796 --> 0:13:48.677
 concerned with.
 
 0:13:49.297 --> 0:13:51.999
 So just thrilled with the
 
 0:13:52.499 --> 0:13:54.660
 breadth of work contained
 
 0:13:54.900 --> 0:13:57.121
 in the collection and the
 
 0:13:57.201 --> 0:13:59.764
 reception of the poets to
 
 0:13:59.923 --> 0:14:02.485
 tap into their own creative
 
 0:14:02.566 --> 0:14:05.048
 forces to make Phyllis
 
 0:14:05.107 --> 0:14:06.389
 Wheatley Peters work
 
 0:14:07.028 --> 0:14:09.951
 accessible to newer generations.
 
 0:14:16.873 --> 0:14:19.933
 So Bob will be rejoining us momentarily.
 
 0:14:19.953 --> 0:14:22.375
 And I have to say that I
 
 0:14:22.455 --> 0:14:25.056
 often think about Phyllis
 
 0:14:25.355 --> 0:14:27.856
 very much as a product of her time.
 
 0:14:27.897 --> 0:14:29.977
 And I'm interested to know whether,
 
 0:14:30.658 --> 0:14:32.818
 before we get to your two contributors,
 
 0:14:34.078 --> 0:14:36.340
 whether consideration was given to
 
 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.341
 how much her space may have
 
 0:14:39.422 --> 0:14:42.705
 affected the space in which she lived,
 
 0:14:42.725 --> 0:14:43.926
 the spaces she visited,
 
 0:14:44.407 --> 0:14:45.548
 Old South Meeting House of
 
 0:14:45.607 --> 0:14:46.729
 which she was a congregant.
 
 0:14:47.168 --> 0:14:49.971
 Do you think that space is
 
 0:14:50.172 --> 0:14:51.472
 one of the factors that
 
 0:14:51.653 --> 0:14:52.793
 affects her writing?
 
 0:14:56.116 --> 0:14:57.759
 Yes, it's a great question.
 
 0:14:57.778 --> 0:14:59.860
 I think it could not but
 
 0:15:00.321 --> 0:15:01.642
 affect her writing.
 
 0:15:01.701 --> 0:15:02.562
 She was very much
 
 0:15:04.657 --> 0:15:07.798
 working within a community.
 
 0:15:08.077 --> 0:15:09.457
 We tend to think of poets
 
 0:15:09.518 --> 0:15:12.178
 and writers as isolated creatures, right?
 
 0:15:12.259 --> 0:15:13.320
 But Phillis Wheatley was
 
 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.799
 very much in the community of Boston,
 
 0:15:16.379 --> 0:15:17.341
 documenting,
 
 0:15:18.181 --> 0:15:20.182
 witnessing and documenting
 
 0:15:20.302 --> 0:15:21.902
 the events of her day,
 
 0:15:22.042 --> 0:15:24.802
 including the impending revolution.
 
 0:15:25.395 --> 0:15:29.301
 You will recall that 1773, in 1773,
 
 0:15:29.301 --> 0:15:31.224
 we were not yet the United States,
 
 0:15:31.264 --> 0:15:33.466
 but there was something brewing.
 
 0:15:33.486 --> 0:15:36.110
 And so she was watching that
 
 0:15:36.190 --> 0:15:37.832
 and in conversation with
 
 0:15:37.852 --> 0:15:39.495
 this mentioned earlier.
 
 0:15:41.317 --> 0:15:43.799
 and others who were making the revolution,
 
 0:15:43.919 --> 0:15:48.245
 both within, you know, the colonists,
 
 0:15:48.705 --> 0:15:51.248
 white colonists circles,
 
 0:15:51.427 --> 0:15:53.009
 but also within circles of
 
 0:15:53.451 --> 0:15:56.254
 people of color in Boston
 
 0:15:56.433 --> 0:15:57.315
 and New England.
 
 0:15:58.785 --> 0:15:59.025
 Right.
 
 0:15:59.086 --> 0:15:59.486
 So, you know,
 
 0:15:59.506 --> 0:16:00.847
 they often say that the past
 
 0:16:00.908 --> 0:16:02.048
 is a foreign country and
 
 0:16:02.087 --> 0:16:03.288
 certainly we see that in
 
 0:16:03.389 --> 0:16:06.030
 language and in costume and
 
 0:16:06.831 --> 0:16:07.971
 in structures.
 
 0:16:08.131 --> 0:16:10.173
 And so I guess, you know,
 
 0:16:10.212 --> 0:16:11.072
 that would be one of the
 
 0:16:11.113 --> 0:16:13.134
 questions I'd have for your contributors,
 
 0:16:13.174 --> 0:16:13.615
 you know,
 
 0:16:13.815 --> 0:16:15.936
 is do they think about those
 
 0:16:16.015 --> 0:16:17.756
 things as they're coming?
 
 0:16:17.836 --> 0:16:19.738
 I mean, her words are very powerful.
 
 0:16:21.820 --> 0:16:22.080
 You know,
 
 0:16:22.139 --> 0:16:25.642
 she's obviously moved by the
 
 0:16:25.701 --> 0:16:27.381
 passions of her heart and
 
 0:16:27.923 --> 0:16:29.202
 the brilliance of her mind
 
 0:16:29.663 --> 0:16:31.544
 to write these extraordinary poems.
 
 0:16:31.644 --> 0:16:34.566
 But as we've just said, you know,
 
 0:16:34.765 --> 0:16:37.668
 place and time matters as well.
 
 0:16:37.748 --> 0:16:40.590
 And so do your contributors, I mean,
 
 0:16:40.610 --> 0:16:41.450
 do you think about those
 
 0:16:41.490 --> 0:16:42.571
 things when you're sitting down?
 
 0:16:43.571 --> 0:16:45.572
 write something that is
 
 0:16:46.312 --> 0:16:48.094
 meant to compliment or
 
 0:16:48.254 --> 0:16:52.096
 amplify or exhibit the
 
 0:16:52.157 --> 0:16:53.216
 genius of this woman.
 
 0:16:54.418 --> 0:16:56.139
 I think Florence would be a
 
 0:16:56.219 --> 0:16:59.441
 great person to address this question.
 
 0:16:59.461 --> 0:17:00.721
 Florence, would you mind?
 
 0:17:01.522 --> 0:17:02.342
 Well, not at all.
 
 0:17:02.982 --> 0:17:03.524
 Certainly,
 
 0:17:05.944 --> 0:17:11.988
 I put my heart and self into
 
 0:17:12.288 --> 0:17:14.909
 what I imagine was her situation.
 
 0:17:16.509 --> 0:17:20.391
 And the poem that I had the
 
 0:17:20.490 --> 0:17:27.433
 privilege of studying, living with, was,
 
 0:17:29.095 --> 0:17:30.835
 well, I'll tell you when I get to it.
 
 0:17:31.536 --> 0:17:33.736
 I'll tell you just how it
 
 0:17:33.817 --> 0:17:34.936
 came to her in the moment.
 
 0:17:35.507 --> 0:17:38.508
 And that moment took me into
 
 0:17:39.848 --> 0:17:42.749
 her situation in the Wheatley family,
 
 0:17:43.690 --> 0:17:44.490
 serving them,
 
 0:17:45.931 --> 0:17:47.590
 overhearing conversations
 
 0:17:50.612 --> 0:17:54.794
 and building her or
 
 0:17:54.953 --> 0:17:56.394
 allowing her imagination
 
 0:17:57.694 --> 0:18:01.736
 and her extraordinary genius to take her
 
 0:18:02.611 --> 0:18:06.134
 from serving positions to the page,
 
 0:18:06.413 --> 0:18:09.435
 to putting on paper her
 
 0:18:10.396 --> 0:18:13.078
 sense of poetic expression
 
 0:18:14.038 --> 0:18:16.500
 of the events of her time.
 
 0:18:19.748 --> 0:18:20.128
 Danielle,
 
 0:18:20.148 --> 0:18:22.289
 I believe you wanted to go in a
 
 0:18:22.329 --> 0:18:23.771
 particular order regarding
 
 0:18:23.872 --> 0:18:24.771
 your contributor.
 
 0:18:24.791 --> 0:18:25.452
 So I don't know if you'd
 
 0:18:25.492 --> 0:18:26.894
 like to give us a brief
 
 0:18:26.953 --> 0:18:31.278
 introduction to Gailey and
 
 0:18:31.758 --> 0:18:33.159
 how she came to be involved
 
 0:18:33.199 --> 0:18:33.799
 in this project.
 
 0:18:35.020 --> 0:18:35.320
 Yes.
 
 0:18:37.182 --> 0:18:37.403
 Well,
 
 0:18:37.583 --> 0:18:40.484
 I will read a little bit about her
 
 0:18:41.705 --> 0:18:42.606
 from her biography.
 
 0:18:42.686 --> 0:18:43.548
 I think Bob already
 
 0:18:43.587 --> 0:18:46.470
 mentioned some of what she
 
 0:18:46.509 --> 0:18:47.530
 has done in the world.
 
 0:18:48.422 --> 0:18:49.362
 But I want to mention that
 
 0:18:49.402 --> 0:18:51.042
 she earned a PhD in
 
 0:18:51.123 --> 0:18:52.124
 creative writing and
 
 0:18:52.384 --> 0:18:53.564
 English literature from the
 
 0:18:53.663 --> 0:18:54.984
 University of Cincinnati.
 
 0:18:55.625 --> 0:18:57.346
 She lives in Cincinnati,
 
 0:18:57.405 --> 0:18:59.666
 teaches English at Xavier University,
 
 0:19:00.248 --> 0:19:01.887
 and she's the 2022-23
 
 0:19:01.988 --> 0:19:04.368
 Cincinnati and Mercantile
 
 0:19:04.509 --> 0:19:06.810
 Library Poet Laureate.
 
 0:19:07.250 --> 0:19:08.131
 So I imagine she's doing
 
 0:19:08.151 --> 0:19:10.771
 some amazing work in that
 
 0:19:10.853 --> 0:19:12.373
 role and already has done
 
 0:19:12.393 --> 0:19:16.055
 some amazing work in that role.
 
 0:19:16.604 --> 0:19:18.047
 And I think Yaeli will speak
 
 0:19:18.106 --> 0:19:19.910
 a little bit about her
 
 0:19:19.970 --> 0:19:25.219
 process and her poem and her thinking.
 
 0:19:26.663 --> 0:19:27.023
 Excellent.
 
 0:19:27.124 --> 0:19:28.345
 So thank you so much.
 
 0:19:28.384 --> 0:19:29.625
 I'm very happy to be here.
 
 0:19:29.645 --> 0:19:33.867
 And so far as thinking about this poem,
 
 0:19:34.429 --> 0:19:35.568
 which originally the poem
 
 0:19:35.588 --> 0:19:37.691
 that I re-inscribed was to
 
 0:19:37.730 --> 0:19:38.951
 a lady on her coming to
 
 0:19:39.011 --> 0:19:40.071
 North America with her son
 
 0:19:40.192 --> 0:19:41.593
 for the recovery of her health.
 
 0:19:42.534 --> 0:19:44.015
 And well,
 
 0:19:44.035 --> 0:19:44.954
 the first thing was reading the
 
 0:19:44.994 --> 0:19:46.115
 poem over and over again
 
 0:19:46.135 --> 0:19:48.076
 and just thinking about the rhythm,
 
 0:19:48.856 --> 0:19:50.097
 the music, the thematics,
 
 0:19:50.357 --> 0:19:52.700
 the sonic nature and
 
 0:19:52.759 --> 0:19:54.661
 imagistic quality of Phil Sweetly's work.
 
 0:19:55.037 --> 0:19:56.336
 and just sitting with that for a while.
 
 0:19:56.356 --> 0:19:57.317
 So just kind of the first
 
 0:19:57.337 --> 0:19:59.377
 step was savoring the work itself.
 
 0:19:59.718 --> 0:20:01.298
 And the next thing was kind
 
 0:20:01.337 --> 0:20:02.138
 of a bewilderment.
 
 0:20:02.459 --> 0:20:03.259
 How do you add to a poem
 
 0:20:03.278 --> 0:20:04.278
 that already feels perfect?
 
 0:20:04.679 --> 0:20:06.578
 So there is just kind of a
 
 0:20:06.839 --> 0:20:07.779
 quiet period with that.
 
 0:20:07.839 --> 0:20:08.099
 And just,
 
 0:20:08.180 --> 0:20:09.740
 I felt it was a poem and I've
 
 0:20:09.759 --> 0:20:10.319
 spoken with other
 
 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.141
 contributors that felt the
 
 0:20:12.181 --> 0:20:13.080
 same way about wanting to
 
 0:20:13.181 --> 0:20:14.320
 give these poems care.
 
 0:20:14.500 --> 0:20:15.520
 And so I was thinking really
 
 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:16.461
 closely about all these
 
 0:20:16.721 --> 0:20:17.521
 different drafts of the
 
 0:20:17.561 --> 0:20:18.622
 poem until it eventually
 
 0:20:18.682 --> 0:20:20.843
 found its sort of momentum.
 
 0:20:23.617 --> 0:20:24.157
 And for me,
 
 0:20:24.618 --> 0:20:25.779
 what that entailed was thinking
 
 0:20:25.859 --> 0:20:28.842
 about my sort of craft
 
 0:20:28.882 --> 0:20:30.103
 notes is thinking about the
 
 0:20:30.123 --> 0:20:31.923
 synergy between Phillis
 
 0:20:31.943 --> 0:20:32.724
 Wheatley and myself.
 
 0:20:32.805 --> 0:20:33.905
 And so one of the things I
 
 0:20:33.925 --> 0:20:34.686
 was thinking about,
 
 0:20:34.946 --> 0:20:36.028
 or a few of the things I
 
 0:20:36.048 --> 0:20:36.867
 was thinking about with
 
 0:20:37.388 --> 0:20:38.209
 approaching this poem was
 
 0:20:38.229 --> 0:20:39.150
 thinking about my entry
 
 0:20:39.190 --> 0:20:40.671
 points into Phillis Wheatley's life.
 
 0:20:41.412 --> 0:20:45.035
 And as a young girl growing up in Oakland,
 
 0:20:45.075 --> 0:20:45.835
 California,
 
 0:20:45.855 --> 0:20:48.237
 the idea of poetry being
 
 0:20:48.277 --> 0:20:49.857
 possible for a black girl
 
 0:20:49.897 --> 0:20:50.378
 or a black woman
 
 0:20:51.161 --> 0:20:52.102
 through Phyllis Wheatley,
 
 0:20:52.501 --> 0:20:53.662
 the mention of her name and
 
 0:20:53.902 --> 0:20:54.843
 Nikki Giovanni and
 
 0:20:54.883 --> 0:20:55.823
 Gwendolyn Brooks for me.
 
 0:20:55.863 --> 0:20:57.644
 So these were some of the founding names,
 
 0:20:57.683 --> 0:20:58.424
 but there was never,
 
 0:20:58.444 --> 0:21:01.226
 I think the way that poetry
 
 0:21:01.246 --> 0:21:02.287
 was shared with me was
 
 0:21:02.307 --> 0:21:03.126
 Phyllis Wheatley was more
 
 0:21:03.146 --> 0:21:04.748
 of a name and sort of this
 
 0:21:04.807 --> 0:21:05.769
 monument and we didn't have
 
 0:21:05.828 --> 0:21:06.828
 opportunities to really dig
 
 0:21:06.888 --> 0:21:07.469
 into her work.
 
 0:21:07.509 --> 0:21:08.430
 And so this was a lovely
 
 0:21:09.250 --> 0:21:10.050
 sort of experience for me
 
 0:21:10.090 --> 0:21:11.791
 to be able to return to her
 
 0:21:11.832 --> 0:21:13.352
 work after some years.
 
 0:21:13.532 --> 0:21:15.292
 And so I was thinking about
 
 0:21:16.693 --> 0:21:17.654
 Phyllis Wheatley's love of
 
 0:21:17.734 --> 0:21:19.214
 faith and thinking about my
 
 0:21:19.276 --> 0:21:20.115
 own Christian faith
 
 0:21:20.583 --> 0:21:21.384
 as an entry point,
 
 0:21:21.544 --> 0:21:22.964
 thinking about her family,
 
 0:21:23.464 --> 0:21:23.945
 her being from the
 
 0:21:24.006 --> 0:21:25.547
 Senegambia and my family
 
 0:21:25.646 --> 0:21:28.068
 being from that region, Sierra Leone.
 
 0:21:28.108 --> 0:21:28.788
 So thinking about
 
 0:21:28.828 --> 0:21:31.171
 geographical references as
 
 0:21:31.211 --> 0:21:34.773
 well as faith sort of residences too.
 
 0:21:35.354 --> 0:21:36.535
 And something else that I
 
 0:21:36.575 --> 0:21:38.537
 was thinking about was that, you know,
 
 0:21:38.997 --> 0:21:40.538
 this poem was written about
 
 0:21:41.098 --> 0:21:43.000
 the recovery of health of a Black woman.
 
 0:21:43.059 --> 0:21:45.903
 And this is a pervasive topic.
 
 0:21:46.143 --> 0:21:47.564
 And I think often about how
 
 0:21:48.405 --> 0:21:50.366
 black women don't receive equitable care,
 
 0:21:50.547 --> 0:21:51.047
 healthcare,
 
 0:21:51.728 --> 0:21:52.887
 and thinking about what I
 
 0:21:52.928 --> 0:21:55.410
 would want for the beloved
 
 0:21:55.430 --> 0:21:56.130
 women in my life,
 
 0:21:56.369 --> 0:21:57.530
 the women that I know and don't know,
 
 0:21:57.550 --> 0:21:58.790
 and thinking about kin.
 
 0:21:59.291 --> 0:22:00.892
 And so in terms of putting
 
 0:22:00.912 --> 0:22:01.532
 this poem together,
 
 0:22:01.553 --> 0:22:02.653
 I was thinking about what
 
 0:22:02.673 --> 0:22:03.413
 would it look like to
 
 0:22:03.453 --> 0:22:04.294
 create a poem that felt
 
 0:22:04.314 --> 0:22:05.535
 like a sermon and felt like
 
 0:22:05.575 --> 0:22:06.714
 a wish and felt like a prayer?
 
 0:22:07.115 --> 0:22:08.576
 And how could I share that
 
 0:22:08.635 --> 0:22:09.557
 with women I love?
 
 0:22:10.076 --> 0:22:11.518
 And so that's how I came to
 
 0:22:11.557 --> 0:22:12.377
 write this poem.
 
 0:22:13.098 --> 0:22:13.558
 And yeah,
 
 0:22:13.578 --> 0:22:15.380
 I'm just gonna go ahead and read it now.
 
 0:22:16.376 --> 0:22:16.978
 And again,
 
 0:22:17.018 --> 0:22:17.979
 this is such a pleasure to be
 
 0:22:18.019 --> 0:22:18.920
 part of this anthology.
 
 0:22:18.940 --> 0:22:20.082
 It's one of the best moments
 
 0:22:20.142 --> 0:22:21.844
 of my literary career so far,
 
 0:22:21.884 --> 0:22:22.585
 and I know that it will
 
 0:22:22.625 --> 0:22:23.526
 remain one of the best.
 
 0:22:23.705 --> 0:22:24.606
 So thank you again,
 
 0:22:25.307 --> 0:22:26.169
 Danielle and Archeress.
 
 0:22:29.093 --> 0:22:31.214
 So this poem is called
 
 0:22:31.335 --> 0:22:32.797
 Declarations Over Your Life.
 
 0:22:33.498 --> 0:22:35.000
 For every sister in need of
 
 0:22:35.059 --> 0:22:35.780
 a health blessing.
 
 0:22:37.041 --> 0:22:37.883
 Precious sister,
 
 0:22:37.903 --> 0:22:40.085
 I hold your hand and pray
 
 0:22:40.184 --> 0:22:42.007
 bliss over every cell of
 
 0:22:42.047 --> 0:22:43.868
 your being and soothe the
 
 0:22:43.929 --> 0:22:46.391
 muscles that spasm in anxiety.
 
 0:22:47.231 --> 0:22:48.772
 May you remember who you are
 
 0:22:49.153 --> 0:22:50.055
 and whose you are,
 
 0:22:50.615 --> 0:22:51.476
 and may you recall
 
 0:22:51.536 --> 0:22:53.218
 confidently the steadfast
 
 0:22:53.357 --> 0:22:54.759
 and gentle architecture of
 
 0:22:54.798 --> 0:22:56.300
 your body and expect
 
 0:22:56.381 --> 0:22:58.082
 wellness to soon flood its
 
 0:22:58.142 --> 0:22:59.304
 majestic contours.
 
 0:23:00.204 --> 0:23:01.786
 May the mass be disappeared,
 
 0:23:02.467 --> 0:23:03.928
 and the strictures slacken,
 
 0:23:04.548 --> 0:23:06.588
 and the toxins break down to nothing.
 
 0:23:07.470 --> 0:23:09.230
 May the angels assigned to
 
 0:23:09.290 --> 0:23:12.252
 life and limb cover you, protect you,
 
 0:23:12.752 --> 0:23:15.634
 shroud you in their manifold ikru wings.
 
 0:23:16.215 --> 0:23:17.537
 And may God hold your heart
 
 0:23:17.676 --> 0:23:19.238
 in his hand until you hear
 
 0:23:19.317 --> 0:23:20.798
 a psalm rising from the
 
 0:23:20.858 --> 0:23:22.259
 wonder of your own breath.
 
 0:23:22.779 --> 0:23:23.641
 Ah, salah.
 
 0:23:23.661 --> 0:23:24.441
 Ah, salah.
 
 0:23:24.461 --> 0:23:25.182
 Ah, salah.
 
 0:23:25.201 --> 0:23:25.241
 Ah.
 
 0:23:28.911 --> 0:23:30.333
 And in the operating room,
 
 0:23:30.752 --> 0:23:31.855
 may the doctor become an
 
 0:23:31.994 --> 0:23:33.876
 auntie and the nurse a brother.
 
 0:23:34.478 --> 0:23:36.180
 May stranger kindle to kin.
 
 0:23:37.020 --> 0:23:39.443
 May dignity burn the edges of isolation.
 
 0:23:40.045 --> 0:23:41.286
 May you be heard with
 
 0:23:41.346 --> 0:23:43.128
 neither doubt nor prejudice
 
 0:23:43.269 --> 0:23:44.569
 nor impending slander.
 
 0:23:45.717 --> 0:23:46.617
 May the vector of your
 
 0:23:46.657 --> 0:23:48.080
 questions land with no
 
 0:23:48.141 --> 0:23:49.742
 crook in their spine on the
 
 0:23:49.782 --> 0:23:51.065
 way to the ear of the
 
 0:23:51.105 --> 0:23:52.527
 professional or personnel
 
 0:23:52.606 --> 0:23:55.010
 who needs to hear them if they must.
 
 0:23:55.391 --> 0:23:56.673
 May those who love you fight
 
 0:23:56.752 --> 0:23:58.695
 for you all in the name of
 
 0:23:58.855 --> 0:24:00.618
 every good thing that you are owed.
 
 0:24:01.460 --> 0:24:03.020
 May the suture silken as the
 
 0:24:03.060 --> 0:24:04.722
 wound heals for the last time.
 
 0:24:05.503 --> 0:24:06.523
 May you become one with the
 
 0:24:06.604 --> 0:24:07.744
 rapturous velocity of
 
 0:24:07.826 --> 0:24:10.067
 wellness and may it know you by name.
 
 0:24:10.847 --> 0:24:12.269
 May the ailment be banished
 
 0:24:12.630 --> 0:24:14.270
 and your gait be a thud as
 
 0:24:14.351 --> 0:24:15.811
 short and fierce as thunder
 
 0:24:16.153 --> 0:24:17.594
 on the stillest summer night.
 
 0:24:18.193 --> 0:24:19.355
 And may you be filled with
 
 0:24:19.454 --> 0:24:21.156
 unflinching testimony and light.
 
 0:24:21.815 --> 0:24:24.957
 Sister, woman of beloved perpetual future,
 
 0:24:25.458 --> 0:24:26.057
 is yours.
 
 0:24:26.679 --> 0:24:28.059
 May every holy wind wrap
 
 0:24:28.140 --> 0:24:29.701
 around you and lift you
 
 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.422
 from supine to upright.
 
 0:24:32.182 --> 0:24:33.403
 May every step you take from
 
 0:24:33.423 --> 0:24:34.724
 the hospital bed be flanked
 
 0:24:34.765 --> 0:24:37.205
 with the scents of home, hibiscus,
 
 0:24:37.586 --> 0:24:39.367
 cocoa butter, bergamot.
 
 0:24:40.048 --> 0:24:41.529
 May you smile at what awaits.
 
 0:24:42.170 --> 0:24:43.750
 your lover, your child,
 
 0:24:44.011 --> 0:24:44.892
 and the tomorrow that you
 
 0:24:44.912 --> 0:24:47.173
 will continue to build here on earth.
 
 0:24:47.974 --> 0:24:49.256
 May you too give thanks for
 
 0:24:49.316 --> 0:24:51.278
 things unseen but known and felt,
 
 0:24:51.478 --> 0:24:53.038
 triumphant sister.
 
 0:24:53.660 --> 0:24:54.881
 May there be ease from hair
 
 0:24:54.941 --> 0:24:57.563
 follicle to arch of foot evermore.
 
 0:24:58.042 --> 0:25:00.685
 And may the sun greet you again and again,
 
 0:25:00.705 --> 0:25:02.386
 a velvet bright fruit
 
 0:25:02.586 --> 0:25:03.748
 rising from the dirt of
 
 0:25:03.788 --> 0:25:05.809
 this land to brush your sweet face.
 
 0:25:06.349 --> 0:25:07.151
 And like the sun,
 
 0:25:07.550 --> 0:25:08.852
 may every day break grief
 
 0:25:09.173 --> 0:25:10.053
 and resist death.
 
 0:25:10.854 --> 0:25:11.894
 what is left to say but
 
 0:25:11.974 --> 0:25:14.115
 sister good morning good
 
 0:25:14.155 --> 0:25:18.558
 morning thank you brava
 
 0:25:20.420 --> 0:25:29.585
 stunning so thank you uh
 
 0:25:30.025 --> 0:25:31.746
 bailey that poem is very
 
 0:25:31.826 --> 0:25:36.028
 moving to me and with its
 
 0:25:36.169 --> 0:25:39.990
 ending of of rising right
 
 0:25:40.353 --> 0:25:41.674
 And I think that's been part
 
 0:25:41.734 --> 0:25:44.017
 of our project of bringing
 
 0:25:44.938 --> 0:25:47.181
 Phyllis Wheatley forth into
 
 0:25:47.221 --> 0:25:48.342
 the 21st century,
 
 0:25:48.422 --> 0:25:51.306
 having her rise into the 21st century,
 
 0:25:51.786 --> 0:25:52.886
 or continue to rise into
 
 0:25:52.906 --> 0:25:54.890
 the 21st century.
 
 0:25:54.930 --> 0:25:54.990
 Yes.
 
 0:25:56.223 --> 0:25:56.743
 Definitely.
 
 0:25:56.784 --> 0:26:00.026
 It was so much about what we
 
 0:26:00.866 --> 0:26:02.508
 intended for this
 
 0:26:02.567 --> 0:26:04.229
 publication as far as
 
 0:26:04.288 --> 0:26:06.730
 reaching newer generations
 
 0:26:07.471 --> 0:26:10.252
 and the placement of the poetry.
 
 0:26:11.233 --> 0:26:11.673
 Originally,
 
 0:26:11.713 --> 0:26:12.934
 we thought we would have
 
 0:26:13.474 --> 0:26:14.756
 Phillis Wheatley's original
 
 0:26:14.796 --> 0:26:18.498
 poems first and then the
 
 0:26:19.318 --> 0:26:20.740
 new re-inscribed poems.
 
 0:26:21.619 --> 0:26:23.121
 And then there was a
 
 0:26:23.181 --> 0:26:25.281
 recognition that it's the
 
 0:26:25.382 --> 0:26:27.843
 story of the creation of
 
 0:26:27.903 --> 0:26:30.304
 these new poems that is so
 
 0:26:30.503 --> 0:26:33.846
 significant because we are
 
 0:26:34.006 --> 0:26:35.567
 opening a pathway for
 
 0:26:35.646 --> 0:26:37.106
 people to understand her
 
 0:26:37.146 --> 0:26:38.147
 work in a new way.
 
 0:26:38.567 --> 0:26:40.528
 So we start with those craft
 
 0:26:40.568 --> 0:26:42.170
 statements about how poets
 
 0:26:42.210 --> 0:26:44.570
 were inspired for their particular poem.
 
 0:26:45.111 --> 0:26:47.992
 then move to the re-inscribed poem,
 
 0:26:48.493 --> 0:26:50.394
 and then end with Phyllis
 
 0:26:50.454 --> 0:26:52.096
 Wheatley's original poem.
 
 0:26:52.896 --> 0:26:56.900
 And that really is a journey
 
 0:26:57.220 --> 0:26:59.082
 that allows people to
 
 0:26:59.321 --> 0:27:01.683
 understand how significant
 
 0:27:01.723 --> 0:27:03.964
 her legacy is and gain that
 
 0:27:04.025 --> 0:27:05.846
 new appreciation of her work.
 
 0:27:07.688 --> 0:27:08.868
 People have been responding
 
 0:27:08.969 --> 0:27:13.692
 very positively to Florence's essay,
 
 0:27:15.055 --> 0:27:17.317
 and thoughts on the poem
 
 0:27:17.436 --> 0:27:18.978
 that she re-inscribed.
 
 0:27:19.317 --> 0:27:20.057
 So Florence,
 
 0:27:20.117 --> 0:27:21.058
 I'm hoping you won't mind
 
 0:27:21.098 --> 0:27:24.141
 sharing your process with us,
 
 0:27:24.181 --> 0:27:27.623
 the Wheatley poem, and then your poem.
 
 0:27:28.823 --> 0:27:29.303
 All right.
 
 0:27:30.203 --> 0:27:34.026
 I thought I might start with
 
 0:27:34.445 --> 0:27:36.047
 Phyllis Sweet's poem, though,
 
 0:27:38.228 --> 0:27:40.349
 and end with
 
 0:27:42.509 --> 0:27:45.030
 my process, if you will.
 
 0:27:49.516 --> 0:27:50.656
 It was her first published
 
 0:27:50.717 --> 0:27:56.021
 poem that I had the pleasure,
 
 0:27:56.821 --> 0:27:59.003
 the privilege of revisiting.
 
 0:28:00.184 --> 0:28:01.787
 And I say revisiting because
 
 0:28:02.007 --> 0:28:05.711
 I grew up acquainted with
 
 0:28:05.770 --> 0:28:06.832
 Phyllis Sweetly's work.
 
 0:28:11.413 --> 0:28:13.596
 The poem was delivered to
 
 0:28:13.695 --> 0:28:15.637
 the Newport Mercury by
 
 0:28:15.857 --> 0:28:22.584
 someone who attached these lines.
 
 0:28:24.144 --> 0:28:26.807
 Composed by a Negro girl
 
 0:28:28.108 --> 0:28:29.470
 belonging to one Mr.
 
 0:28:29.509 --> 0:28:31.771
 Wheatley of Boston on the
 
 0:28:31.811 --> 0:28:34.153
 following occasion when Messrs.
 
 0:28:34.193 --> 0:28:38.397
 Husey and Coffin belonging to Nantucket
 
 0:28:39.161 --> 0:28:41.663
 being bound from thence to Boston,
 
 0:28:42.303 --> 0:28:44.265
 narrowly escaped being cast
 
 0:28:44.345 --> 0:28:46.727
 away on Cape Cod in one of
 
 0:28:46.767 --> 0:28:47.686
 the late storms.
 
 0:28:50.328 --> 0:28:52.911
 Being at Mr. Wheatley's and
 
 0:28:52.971 --> 0:28:53.892
 while at dinner,
 
 0:28:54.932 --> 0:28:56.993
 told of their narrow escape,
 
 0:28:57.595 --> 0:28:59.715
 this Negro girl at the same
 
 0:28:59.816 --> 0:29:04.179
 time tending table heard of their plight,
 
 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.301
 from which she composed verses.
 
 0:29:10.156 --> 0:29:14.240
 Imagine how this came to her.
 
 0:29:18.523 --> 0:29:22.606
 Her poem on Mrs. Husey and Coffin.
 
 0:29:27.931 --> 0:29:30.733
 Did fear and danger so
 
 0:29:30.894 --> 0:29:33.256
 perplex your mind as made
 
 0:29:33.296 --> 0:29:35.738
 you fearful of the whistling wind?
 
 0:29:37.578 --> 0:29:39.580
 Was it not Boreas's knit his
 
 0:29:40.230 --> 0:29:42.771
 angry brow against you?
 
 0:29:44.073 --> 0:29:48.115
 Or did consideration bow to lend you aid?
 
 0:29:48.815 --> 0:29:50.796
 Did not his winds combine to
 
 0:29:50.856 --> 0:29:53.698
 stop your passage with churlish line?
 
 0:29:54.617 --> 0:29:56.659
 Did haughty Aeolus with
 
 0:29:56.740 --> 0:29:58.641
 contempt look down with
 
 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.382
 aspect windy and a studied frown?
 
 0:30:03.962 --> 0:30:04.884
 Regard them not.
 
 0:30:06.384 --> 0:30:09.046
 The great supreme, the wise,
 
 0:30:09.772 --> 0:30:11.813
 intends for something hidden
 
 0:30:11.932 --> 0:30:12.973
 from our eyes.
 
 0:30:14.834 --> 0:30:16.574
 Suppose the groundless gulf
 
 0:30:17.054 --> 0:30:19.095
 had snatched away Husey and
 
 0:30:19.154 --> 0:30:21.674
 Coffin to the raging sea.
 
 0:30:23.315 --> 0:30:24.275
 Where would they go?
 
 0:30:25.895 --> 0:30:29.415
 Where would their abode be?
 
 0:30:31.876 --> 0:30:33.057
 Were the supreme an
 
 0:30:33.217 --> 0:30:36.136
 independent god or made
 
 0:30:36.176 --> 0:30:38.897
 their beds down in the shades below?
 
 0:30:39.602 --> 0:30:41.682
 where neither pleasure nor
 
 0:30:41.801 --> 0:30:43.002
 content can flow.
 
 0:30:44.623 --> 0:30:47.223
 To heaven their souls with
 
 0:30:47.344 --> 0:30:48.743
 eager raptures soar.
 
 0:30:49.784 --> 0:30:53.984
 Enjoy the bliss of him they would adore.
 
 0:30:55.325 --> 0:30:56.945
 Had the soft gliding streams
 
 0:30:57.066 --> 0:30:58.165
 of grace been near?
 
 0:30:59.625 --> 0:31:00.705
 Some favorite hope,
 
 0:31:01.446 --> 0:31:03.326
 their fainting hearts to cheer.
 
 0:31:04.346 --> 0:31:08.107
 Doubtless the fear of danger far had fled.
 
 0:31:09.425 --> 0:31:11.287
 No more repeated victory
 
 0:31:12.428 --> 0:31:13.548
 crowned their heads.
 
 0:31:18.790 --> 0:31:21.413
 The poem was published.
 
 0:31:21.472 --> 0:31:22.953
 Her first published poem
 
 0:31:25.035 --> 0:31:28.076
 appeared in the newspaper,
 
 0:31:28.217 --> 0:31:29.037
 the Newport Mercury, in 1767.
 
 0:31:29.037 --> 0:31:31.097
 She was 18 years old.
 
 0:31:38.876 --> 0:31:39.498
 I'm sorry.
 
 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:42.661
 Slip of tongue.
 
 0:31:43.161 --> 0:31:44.663
 She was 14 years old.
 
 0:31:47.526 --> 0:31:48.807
 She was 14 years old.
 
 0:31:54.692 --> 0:31:58.537
 My reinscription on Messrs.
 
 0:31:58.616 --> 0:31:59.637
 Husey and Coffin.
 
 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.002
 Hearing of your brush with death at sea,
 
 0:32:05.723 --> 0:32:08.026
 young Phyllis rushed to pen
 
 0:32:08.266 --> 0:32:09.047
 her wonderment.
 
 0:32:10.387 --> 0:32:13.810
 How you endured torment, tormenting winds,
 
 0:32:14.852 --> 0:32:17.273
 pelagic waters buffeting your catch.
 
 0:32:18.895 --> 0:32:21.038
 Did you read the script in
 
 0:32:21.117 --> 0:32:22.239
 obsidian clouds?
 
 0:32:24.260 --> 0:32:24.740
 Trembling,
 
 0:32:25.821 --> 0:32:28.704
 did you curse mythic wind deities?
 
 0:32:30.518 --> 0:32:34.060
 or pray to the great supreme that you,
 
 0:32:34.662 --> 0:32:38.705
 Hussie and Coffin, spared briny graves,
 
 0:32:39.266 --> 0:32:42.970
 be guided over the waves to Boston Harbor,
 
 0:32:43.851 --> 0:32:45.471
 where hopeful and heartfelt
 
 0:32:45.511 --> 0:32:46.573
 relief awaited?
 
 0:32:48.115 --> 0:32:49.056
 Did you thank heaven,
 
 0:32:50.156 --> 0:32:53.240
 promising never again would
 
 0:32:53.279 --> 0:32:55.602
 you repeat risking your lives at sea?
 
 0:32:58.288 --> 0:33:00.567
 With her seraphic gifts and
 
 0:33:00.627 --> 0:33:01.729
 Christian sympathy,
 
 0:33:02.388 --> 0:33:03.808
 Phyllis pondered the plight
 
 0:33:04.449 --> 0:33:06.690
 of men in ships at sea.
 
 0:33:12.250 --> 0:33:20.132
 Her poem at 14 stirred a lot in me.
 
 0:33:22.252 --> 0:33:27.993
 I was happy to have this poem to
 
 0:33:29.005 --> 0:33:30.766
 allow me a sentimental
 
 0:33:30.806 --> 0:33:34.047
 return to Boston and to the Cape.
 
 0:33:34.707 --> 0:33:35.166
 But first,
 
 0:33:35.867 --> 0:33:37.567
 I had to renew acquaintance with
 
 0:33:37.587 --> 0:33:38.328
 the classics.
 
 0:33:39.828 --> 0:33:41.289
 I was reminded of my
 
 0:33:41.349 --> 0:33:43.010
 enthusiasm for the classics
 
 0:33:43.790 --> 0:33:44.951
 as a high school student,
 
 0:33:45.571 --> 0:33:47.892
 but I marvel at her
 
 0:33:47.971 --> 0:33:49.692
 knowledge of the classics
 
 0:33:51.034 --> 0:33:53.335
 and admire her deft
 
 0:33:53.575 --> 0:33:56.935
 insertion of the gods in her poem.
 
 0:33:59.655 --> 0:34:01.596
 And then an excursion into
 
 0:34:01.636 --> 0:34:03.517
 the meteorology of Boston's
 
 0:34:03.636 --> 0:34:05.798
 coastal waters for suitable
 
 0:34:05.877 --> 0:34:09.298
 vocabulary occupied me for,
 
 0:34:10.159 --> 0:34:11.400
 and I wrote several hours,
 
 0:34:11.559 --> 0:34:12.900
 actually for several days.
 
 0:34:16.782 --> 0:34:18.682
 I then realized the poem was
 
 0:34:18.742 --> 0:34:21.244
 not about winds at sea,
 
 0:34:22.063 --> 0:34:23.143
 rather it's about the
 
 0:34:23.204 --> 0:34:25.364
 experience of the two men,
 
 0:34:25.425 --> 0:34:27.405
 Husey and Coffin.
 
 0:34:30.353 --> 0:34:31.353
 Phyllis Wheatley's many
 
 0:34:31.432 --> 0:34:32.494
 questions about their
 
 0:34:32.673 --> 0:34:34.673
 experience had me shift my
 
 0:34:34.733 --> 0:34:36.675
 focus from the water to the men.
 
 0:34:38.295 --> 0:34:39.494
 I copied her style of
 
 0:34:39.574 --> 0:34:42.335
 questions and appropriated
 
 0:34:42.416 --> 0:34:44.135
 some of her lexicon.
 
 0:34:46.097 --> 0:34:48.677
 Her rhyme scheme renewed my
 
 0:34:48.836 --> 0:34:50.498
 interest in rhyming.
 
 0:34:53.237 --> 0:34:55.818
 And my poem became a sonnet,
 
 0:34:55.938 --> 0:34:59.739
 which seemed appropriate for the period
 
 0:35:00.557 --> 0:35:03.639
 and for the material.
 
 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:08.621
 In my home library,
 
 0:35:08.641 --> 0:35:13.442
 I found the life and works
 
 0:35:13.581 --> 0:35:17.023
 of Phyllis Wheatley by G. Herbert Renfrow,
 
 0:35:17.202 --> 0:35:22.425
 first published in 1916.
 
 0:35:22.425 --> 0:35:24.625
 In Renfrow's introduction to
 
 0:35:24.644 --> 0:35:25.885
 the collection of her poems
 
 0:35:25.965 --> 0:35:28.025
 and correspondence, he wrote,
 
 0:35:28.967 --> 0:35:29.567
 and I quote,
 
 0:35:31.963 --> 0:35:33.463
 In the days when women were
 
 0:35:33.563 --> 0:35:35.865
 not encouraged to pursue
 
 0:35:36.166 --> 0:35:37.867
 the richer fields of
 
 0:35:37.947 --> 0:35:39.268
 science and literature,
 
 0:35:40.708 --> 0:35:42.190
 when only the wealthy and
 
 0:35:42.230 --> 0:35:44.431
 refined invaded the
 
 0:35:44.510 --> 0:35:47.512
 storehouses of ancient classics,
 
 0:35:48.653 --> 0:35:50.954
 a Negro girl became an
 
 0:35:51.074 --> 0:35:53.597
 honored precedent for an
 
 0:35:53.777 --> 0:35:54.878
 ungrateful nation.
 
 0:35:56.739 --> 0:35:57.378
 Close quote.
 
 0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:01.081
 Many of her poems in
 
 0:36:01.771 --> 0:36:03.432
 the collection have an
 
 0:36:03.532 --> 0:36:05.273
 elegiac tone that
 
 0:36:05.353 --> 0:36:07.155
 influenced my re-inscription.
 
 0:36:09.976 --> 0:36:13.199
 I am grateful to the works
 
 0:36:13.699 --> 0:36:14.960
 of brilliant Phyllis
 
 0:36:15.041 --> 0:36:17.521
 Wheatley for the occasion
 
 0:36:17.581 --> 0:36:23.465
 to honor her in this amazing book.
 
 0:36:29.030 --> 0:36:29.971
 And I want to
 
 0:36:32.168 --> 0:36:32.628
 Repeat,
 
 0:36:33.028 --> 0:36:38.853
 she was 14 years old when she
 
 0:36:39.534 --> 0:36:44.117
 displayed evidence of being a genius,
 
 0:36:44.938 --> 0:36:46.000
 not just a prodigy.
 
 0:36:48.722 --> 0:36:50.543
 And when her command of
 
 0:36:50.724 --> 0:36:53.326
 English was extraordinary
 
 0:36:55.347 --> 0:37:00.211
 and her capacity for empathy evident.
 
 0:37:02.291 --> 0:37:04.532
 And I imagine the memory of
 
 0:37:04.632 --> 0:37:06.514
 her Atlantic crossing
 
 0:37:07.675 --> 0:37:09.856
 resonated with her
 
 0:37:10.715 --> 0:37:13.056
 identification with the
 
 0:37:13.436 --> 0:37:18.438
 close call that you see in Coffin Act.
 
 0:37:21.161 --> 0:37:22.021
 Thank you, Florence.
 
 0:37:22.590 --> 0:37:25.012
 Thank you for your re-inscription.
 
 0:37:25.112 --> 0:37:26.373
 I so appreciate the many
 
 0:37:26.494 --> 0:37:29.135
 questions that it contains
 
 0:37:29.215 --> 0:37:30.916
 and how they echo the
 
 0:37:30.956 --> 0:37:33.539
 questions of weekly.
 
 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:34.699
 And I appreciate you
 
 0:37:34.739 --> 0:37:38.262
 mentioning the possible
 
 0:37:38.362 --> 0:37:42.186
 evocation of the Middle Passage for us.
 
 0:37:45.367 --> 0:37:49.150
 Thank you both for embarking
 
 0:37:49.170 --> 0:37:51.592
 on this extraordinary project.
 
 0:37:53.121 --> 0:37:54.862
 I think it will bring together,
 
 0:37:54.882 --> 0:37:58.465
 at least on paper,
 
 0:37:59.766 --> 0:38:01.967
 many poets of our time
 
 0:38:02.648 --> 0:38:05.750
 whose works we won't know no better.
 
 0:38:08.030 --> 0:38:10.992
 And it will certainly lift
 
 0:38:13.333 --> 0:38:16.936
 the works of Phyllis Sweetling.
 
 0:38:19.097 --> 0:38:19.938
 That's been our goal.
 
 0:38:27.277 --> 0:38:28.739
 Well, thank you all.
 
 0:38:28.759 --> 0:38:29.318
 This has been an
 
 0:38:29.398 --> 0:38:32.021
 extraordinary introduction
 
 0:38:32.041 --> 0:38:34.123
 to both Phyllis Wheatley
 
 0:38:34.182 --> 0:38:35.342
 Peters and to this
 
 0:38:35.563 --> 0:38:37.545
 tremendous volume and to
 
 0:38:37.585 --> 0:38:38.726
 the other voices who are
 
 0:38:38.766 --> 0:38:39.927
 now inspired by her.
 
 0:38:39.987 --> 0:38:41.547
 And as Florence was saying,
 
 0:38:41.947 --> 0:38:43.349
 these reinscriptions we
 
 0:38:43.389 --> 0:38:48.012
 hope will continue her legacy, you know,
 
 0:38:48.012 --> 0:38:49.552
 250 years into the future
 
 0:38:50.253 --> 0:38:52.155
 really is a conversation between
 
 0:39:15.563 --> 0:39:15.762
 Yes,
 
 0:39:15.782 --> 0:39:17.403
 what we should add is that there is
 
 0:39:17.463 --> 0:39:19.846
 going to be an official launch.
 
 0:39:19.865 --> 0:39:20.586
 We've had a couple of
 
 0:39:20.626 --> 0:39:23.168
 readings from the anthology,
 
 0:39:23.188 --> 0:39:23.889
 but there will be an
 
 0:39:23.969 --> 0:39:26.170
 official launch on March
 
 0:39:26.670 --> 0:39:28.652
 14th at the Massachusetts
 
 0:39:28.813 --> 0:39:33.956
 Historical Society in Boston at 6 p.m.
 
 0:39:35.217 --> 0:39:36.878
 And we will have music and
 
 0:39:36.918 --> 0:39:38.840
 we will have contributors,
 
 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.262
 including Florence and others.
 
 0:39:41.978 --> 0:39:44.061
 to help us continue to bring
 
 0:39:44.081 --> 0:39:45.644
 this book into the world.
 
 0:39:45.684 --> 0:39:47.387
 So we want to invite Robert
 
 0:39:47.407 --> 0:39:50.753
 Smith to attend the launch.
 
 0:39:51.554 --> 0:39:51.956
 Wonderful.
 
 0:40:09.632 --> 0:40:10.994
 I'm really speechless having
 
 0:40:11.034 --> 0:40:12.733
 now heard you again read
 
 0:40:12.873 --> 0:40:14.375
 your work and her work.
 
 0:40:14.434 --> 0:40:15.014
 So thank you.
 
 0:40:16.956 --> 0:40:20.016
 And thanks to Jonathan Lane, our producer,
 
 0:40:20.398 --> 0:40:22.478
 and to our many friends who
 
 0:40:22.577 --> 0:40:23.759
 tune in regularly.
 
 0:40:24.579 --> 0:40:24.838
 You know,
 
 0:40:24.858 --> 0:40:25.960
 we initially thought we'd have a
 
 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:27.860
 handful of history folks in
 
 0:40:27.940 --> 0:40:29.380
 and around Boston tuning in,
 
 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:30.342
 but we actually have
 
 0:40:30.882 --> 0:40:32.922
 regular listeners all around the world.
 
 0:40:35.795 --> 0:40:37.056
 I thank some of them.
 
 0:40:37.717 --> 0:40:38.577
 And if you're in one of
 
 0:40:38.597 --> 0:40:40.438
 these places and listening,
 
 0:40:40.478 --> 0:40:42.161
 send Jonathan Lane an email,
 
 0:40:42.621 --> 0:40:45.302
 jlane at revolution250.org,
 
 0:40:46.043 --> 0:40:47.403
 and he'll send you some of
 
 0:40:47.525 --> 0:40:50.206
 our Revolution 250 gear.
 
 0:40:50.367 --> 0:40:51.807
 So thank you again to our
 
 0:40:52.047 --> 0:40:53.588
 Chris Bethany White and Danielle Lake
 
 0:40:59.224 --> 0:41:00.943
 the verse of Phyllis Wheatley Peters.
 
 0:41:00.963 --> 0:41:02.284
 Thanks to all of our listeners.
 
 0:41:02.344 --> 0:41:05.085
 And so if you are in one of these places,
 
 0:41:05.686 --> 0:41:09.726
 send us an email, Brasilia, Bangkok,
 
 0:41:10.306 --> 0:41:14.047
 Dublin, Kingston, Jamaica, or Kingston,
 
 0:41:14.068 --> 0:41:14.947
 Massachusetts,
 
 0:41:15.088 --> 0:41:17.148
 and all places between and beyond.